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GROUP RULES

IMPORTANT NOTICE FROM CHETANA TO ALL CHETANAITES :- 

The old world-renowned "CHETANA-JOBS" yahoo group no more exists. We have created a new yahoo group "CHETANA-JOBS-NEW" for all Chetanaites. You must subscribe to this new "CHETANA-JOBS-NEW" group to be in sync with ChetanaS & to stay updated with latest job alerts & placement papers.

Subscription & Unsubscription

 

How to Subscribe to the group "CHETANA-JOBS-NEW" ?

You can subscribe to "CHETANA-JOBS-NEW" in either of below 2 ways.

METHOD # 1
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To Subscribe directly through mail, just send a blank e-mail to :

CHETANA-JOBS-NEW-subscribe @ yahoogroups.com

Please note that you need NOT send mails to any other mail Id, except the above mail ID.

Please Wait for 1 day for approval, after sending blank mail ONLY TO the above mail ID.

Do NOT send mails to any other mail Id including Owner and Moderator.


METHOD # 2 :

Visit the below link (HomePage of the Group) and click on "Join This Group!" button in that page :

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CHETANA-JOBS-NEW


How to UnSubscribe from the group "CHETANA-JOBS-NEW" ?

To UnSubscribe directly through mail, just send a blank e-mail to :
CHETANA-JOBS-NEW-unsubscribe @ yahoogroups.com

You will be automatically unsubscribed. It's as simple as that. Sometimes, it takes time for processing your unsubscription request. It is automated processing and I will not be able to help you if you face any problems in unsubscription.

Do NOT send mails to any other mail ID, asking for Unsubscription. There won't be any use.


Where to visit the Group HomePage ?

If u want to visit HomePage of the Group, you can visit :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CHETANA-JOBS-NEW

If you are a member of the group, You can login with your Yahoo Id and Password to access all the information of group.


How to Change your current group mail id to another ?

Unsubscribe from the first mail id, just send a blank e-mail to :
CHETANA-JOBS-NEW-unsubscribe @ yahoogroups.com

You will be automatically unsubscribed. It's as simple as that.

Then send a mail from the 2 nd mail id (to which you want to receive mails) to :
CHETANA-JOBS-NEW-subscribe @ yahoogroups.com

Just wait for 1 or 2 days after sending the mail, as it takes time for processing.

Do NOT send mails to anyone, asking for change of your mail-id.


How to send mails to entire group ?

In order to send a mail to entire group, send it to :
CHETANA-JOBS-NEW @ yahoogroups.com


Remember that the mail sent to the above mail ID reaches so many people. So, please be sensible in sending messages. Don't send any unnecessary messages.


Important Suggestions in Subscription

I suggest you to create a separate mail ID and then subscribe to this yahoogroup through that mail ID so that your personal mails won't get affected. Be prepared to get around 20 mails per day. Keep that in mind before subscription. NEVER USE YOUR PERSONAL MAIL ID FOR GROUP MESSAGES.

This group is formed to help mainly freshers and also experienced people to get a good job in "Software" Industry. The other discipline jobs don't have much importance in this group. So, don't expect any jobs other than software related.

 

Various problems with the Subscription

 

If the member is not getting any mails even after subscribing or if suddenly he is not able to receive any mails...

I can understand your concerns about Memberships in "CHETANA-JOBS" YahooGroup.

I have approved all your requests for memberships, unsubscriptions etc. I haven't blocked anyone's id, unless they misbehaved in group.

But please understand that problem is not with this group or you, but it's with YahooGroups server and Database. It seems Yahoo is encountering some technical problems. So I will not be able to help you unless they solve the problems.

You might be experiencing one or more of the following problems. If you face any severe problems, JUST CREATE ANOTHER MAIL ID AND SUBSCRIBE THROUGH THAT NEW MAIL ID.

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YahooGroups Website is not accessible::

Sometimes, the WebSite may be down for maintenance by yahoo. So, try after 1 or 2 days.

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Not receiving any mails even after Subscription or Suddenly you are not receiving any mails::

I think there is some problem with Yahoo data base. So, I will not be able to help as of now. I have reported this to Yahoo Groups.

Please bear for some time or try to unsubscribe and then subscribe again with a different mail id. That might work sometimes !

I mean, create a new mail ID and subscribe through that.
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Receving mails even after Unsubscribing::

It is also due to problem with Yahoo. The unsubscription process is completely automatic. I will not be able to help you for unsubscription. So, no use in sending mails to me. Sometimes, it takes lot of time for processing your unsubscription request. Till then, you will be receiving mails even if you sent an unsubscription request.

You set your Mail delivery option (at the YahooGroups website) as : "No Mails" so that you won't receive any mails to your mail id. Later , when Yahoo solves these problems, you can unsubscribe.
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When try for membership, you get a message called "DataBase Unavailable"::

Sometimes, database is down and so it will not accept your requests for memberships.
For this problem, try after 1 or 2 days to subscribe. Then you will get it.

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Getting Unsubscription mail even though you haven't tried to Unsubscribe::

It happens mainly b'cos of Virus mails sent from your mail id (without your notice). If you don't receive group mails continuously for 3 or 4 days or if you suspect that you are unsubscribed from the group, try to subscribe again. If it doesn't work, try to create another mail id and subscribe through that.

Please note that I don't remove any member from the group unless they misbehave in the group.

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Thanks a lot,
CHETANA, Owner, CHETANA-JOBS-NEW Group
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Rules & Regulations of the Group

 

READ ALL GROUP RULES

PLEASE GO THROUGH ALL THE BELOW GROUP RULES BEFORE USING THE YAHOOGROUP. OTHERWISE, IT MAY LEAD TO YOUR TERMINATION FROM THE GROUP.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE RULES ARE FORMED FOR YOUR BENEFIT. FOLLOWING THESE RULES HELPS YOU TO KEEP THE GROUP CLEAN AND GIVES YOU MORE ACCURATE INFORMATION ABOUT JOBS.

ANY VIOLATION OF THESE RULES LEADS TO YOUR TERMINATION FROM THE GROUP AND YOU WON'T BE RECEIVING ANY MORE JOB INFORMATION FROM THE GROUP.

IF YOU AGREE TO ALL THE TERMS OF GROUP, YOU CAN STAY IN GROUP. OR YOU CAN ALWAYS LEAVE IT.


DON'T SEND RESUMES

SENDING RESUME TO GROUP ID OR ANY OF THE GROUP MEMBERS IS NOT AT ALL TOLERATED AND YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM THE GROUP IMMEDIATELY AND WON'T RECEIVE ANY FURTHER JOB INFORMATION, IF YOU DO SO.

THIS GROUP IS NOT A RECRUITMENT AGENCY. WE CAN'T GIVE YOU A JOB. THIS IS JUST A PLACE TO SHARE JOB INFORMATION. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT AND BEHAVE WITH PROPER SENSE.


SHOW GRATITUDE TO THE GROUP AND IT'S MEMBERS

LEARN TO INFORM THE GROUP WHEN YOU GET A JOB. SHOW GRATITUDE TO THE GROUP AND IT'S MEMBERS WHO HELPED YOU IN DIFFICULT TIMES.

When you get a job, Please share that experience with the entire group or mail to me at :
ChetanaS.moderator @ yahoo.com , so that I can forward to group.

Someone might get inspired by your Success story. Who Knows ?

Also I will be quite happy to know about your success and that encourages me to keep the group running.

When you get a job, try to spare 10 minutes to compose a mail in detail with the entire procedure with which you got selected. Write all the details you know. The mail ID (or WebSite) where you applied for the job, company profile, Written Test pattern, Sample Questions, Interview Pattern etc.

That will help lot of other people taking the test in future. They will remember your help for life long.

When you are stepping in to your career, show the path to others also.

Have a helping nature before expecting help from others.


I AM NOT ANSWERABLE TO ANYONE

This group is established by me (CHETANA) and I have every right in deciding how to run the group and which message to approve and which one to delete. I can BAN a member or DENY a membership or REMOVE a member at any point of time. I have the right to withdraw the group at any time, if I think the group members are not behaving properly.

NO ONE IN THE GROUP HAS THE RIGHT TO QUESTION ME. I AM NOT ANSWERABLE TO ANYONE.

Please note that this is not intended for any commercial purposes and I am running this group with lot of struggle just to help you. Initially, I established the group only for my friends and then opened it for all in order to extend my help to everyone. So, any kind of mischievous use of group will lead to the closing of group. I don't mind doing so.

Remember that I am NOT a HR of any company. I am also some individual like you. I established the group just to help you. I am devoting lot of my personal time and money to run this group, even though I am having a good Job.

Daily, I need to approve around 300 subscriptions, read around 500 messages, check which messages are genuine, edit them, approve them, delete unnecessary messages etc. I am doing this despite of my busy schedule. So, please understand and behave with sense !

ALL RESUMES AND ENQUIRIES SENT TO MY MAIL ID WILL BE DELETED STRAIGHT-AWAY.

I will not be able to reply to any of your personal mails. I will NOT be having time to check them.

Also I will not be having any info about various companies, recruitment procedures, previous papers etc. Whatever info I have, I send it to group only. So, do NOT send any individual mails, as it is inconvenient for me. You won't get any reply from me.


VERIFY THE AUTHENTICITY OF INFORMATION BEFORE SENDING TO GROUP

Whenever you are providing a recruitment info, PLEASE verify whether he/she (whose mail id is mentioned) is a HR and/or willing to receive lot of resumes. Then only send the message to group. It's solely your responsibility to check the authenticity of message, as it's not possible for me to check the authenticity of 500 messages daily.

Myself or Group won't be responsible if you send any wrong info to group. You alone will be the responsible for any damages caused by the wrong information sent by you. Bear in mind that you can be prosecuted (by particular company or person to whom you caused damage) in court for sending unauthentic information and causing inconvenience to any company. So, I advise you to be very very careful when sending any information or recruitments to group.

Remember that each mail you send to group reaches lots of people and it wastes the time and money of all of them, if you give wrong info. So, instead of those many people checking for the authenticity of info, you can check it before sending. Everyone appreciates your help.

B'Cos, if I approve your mail to group, that person might get around 10000 resumes and it may cause so much of inconvenience to him/her.

So, please verify with him and if he is willing to receive resumes, then only send the mail to our group id (
CHETANA-JOBS-NEW @ yahoogroups.com ) clearly mentioning at the top of the mail that you verified the authenticity.

Also think before giving a phone number of a person, as he might get more than 1000 calls daily. So, test whether the phone number is correct or not. Also verify with him that whether he is willing to receive those many phone calls. Then only give phone number to group.

I appreciate your efforts in this, as it is impossible for me to check the authenticity of 500 mails daily...


What should be the Subject Line of my mail ?

The subject line should be clear enough to indicate most of the details about requirement:
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The subject line of all mails with fresher recruitments MUST be prefixed with "(FRESHERS)".

For eg,
(FRESHERS) TCS : Walk-in in Bangalore : on 27 th Aug 2003
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Experienced requirements should be mentioned with subject line prefixed with "(EXPERIENCED)".
If possible mention the minimum years of required experience, Company Name, Skill Sets, Company Location etc.

For eg,
(EXPERIENCED) INFOSYS
, B'Lore : Java, J2EE
(EXPERIENCED) TCS : MainFrames : Walk-in : Chennai: On 8 th July 2003

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When you are sending a paper or paper pattern of a company to the group, prefix the subject line with "(PAPER)
For eg,
(PAPER) WIPRO Paper held at REC, Warangal on 29 th June 2003

Also clearly give the Date, Time and Place where the paper is conducted. Mention whether it's for freshers or for experienced.
Also mention the technology in which you attempted the test (if it is for experienced).
If possible, send the paper as Text File so that it will be easy for me to archive.
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When you are asking for some information, prefix the subject line with "(QUERY)".
For eg,
(QUERY) SAMSUNG Previous Papers needed for Campus Interview

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When you get a job and want to share your happiness with other group members, prefix the subject line with "(JOB)".
For eg,
(JOB) I got job in ACCENTURE
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When you are giving some useful information to others, prefix the subject line with "(INFO)".
For eg,
(INFO) The walk-in to be held tomorrow at Accenture got cancelled


What mails are NOT allowed in group ?

Remember that all memberships and mails MUST be approved by me. No mail goes to group without my approval.

The group contains lot of people. Daily we get around 500 messages sent by group members and please note that I can approve only 30 or 40 messages out of them. Remaining messages will be deleted or rejected. I read each and every message and delete all the irrelevant messages. Please note that I don't have any personal rivalry with anyone for rejecting or deleting the messages. You should understand that it is NOT possible to approve each and every message, even though you might think it is important for you.

Think before sending a mail to group whether it is really necessary or not ! Remember that each mail you send reaches lot of group members. So, do NOT send any unnecessary mails.

  • Mails without any SUBJECT LINE will be deleted straightaway.
  • FAKE mails, BLANK mails are not allowed in the group.
  • Any RESUMES sent to group will be deleted and the member will be banned from the group. (He won't receive any further mails)
  • VIRUS Messages will be deleted straightaway.
  • FORWARD messages like "Help needed for Divya Singh, Siemens" etc will be deleted. NO chain mails will be approved to group.
  • Mails with straight enquiries like "Send me Mechanical Jobs", "Send me jobs in Delhi/Noida","Tell me where this place is in B'Lore" etc will be deleted (unless I strongly feel it's very important and benefits most of the people.) If everyone sends a mail to group about the type of jobs he want, I need to approve thousands of mails daily. That is clearly NOT possible.
  • No technical discussions are allowed in the group. This group is not for clarifying your technical doubts.
  • Enquiries related to final year projects are NOT allowed in the group. This group is for job seekers, not for project seekers.

Even if you send such mails, I am not going to approve and also remove your name from group.

Have the sense that each mail you send reaches lots of group members. So, please don't send unnecessary mails like saying "hi", "hello" etc.

EACH MAIL MUST HAVE AN APPROPRIATE SUBJECT. Otherwise they will simply be deleted by me.


I am not going to allow any kind of SMART JOBS, INTERNET TYPING JOB MAILS, FUTURE CARE mails etc, asking people to pay some money. So, no use in sending them. Your mail ID will be BANNED, if you do so.

As you might have observed, no such mails appeared till now in the group. And I have banned those mail IDs who tried sending such mails.


Can I send a 'Query' mail asking for previous papers of a company ?


All 'Query' mails must start with "(QUERY)".

When asking for a company previous papers or interview pattern, remember the following:

Most of the papers are already sent to group long back. So, before asking for them, check the group messages at group website and also at the "files" section of group website. ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CHETANA-JOBS-NEW )

You can view all previous messages at Group WebSite (However attachments won't appear there)

For eg, if you want 'Oracle' papers, search the messages with the Key Word 'Oracle'. You will get most of the info.

If you don't get any info, then only post the message to group.
But, when asking for papers, you MUST mention how you applied for that. You have to give the corresponding Mail Id, WebSite, Complete Address etc. Give whatever details you know about that company. And clearly mention the LOCATION of company.

Do NOT write something like "I applied at their Website", "I applied at their office in Bangalore" etc. You must mention that WebSite URL or the complete office address, even if everyone knows it.

Otherwise, your query mail won't be approved however urgent it may be for you.

If it is for a CAMPUS placement, you MUST mention the College Name, Location, Date of Test/Interview and Your Branch of Study, and other details you know about company.

That will help other people. Without these details, the enquiry mails won't get approved. So, no use in sending them. Unless the info you give is complete, I cannot approve any message.

If the Subject line is not clear enough, message will be deleted.
For eg, you should write clearly as following:
(QUERY) TCS papers needed for experienced category
(QUERY) ORACLE papers needed for fresher walk-in
(QUERY) SYNTEL papers needed for Campus interview
:
:
etc

Above all, even if you mention all details, your message may NOT get approved. B'Cos I get around 300 messages daily and I can approve only 30 or 40 mails out of them.

'Query' mails are of LEAST importance and will get approved only sometimes.

Also if there is a test for Oracle, there will be around 50 people sending Query to group for previous papers. I cannot approve each and every message. So, I approve only 1 or 2 of them.

So, When replying to such queries, send the papers to group mail id (chetana-jobs@yahoogroups.com), instead of their personal mail id. So that everyone will get that info.

Don't send any enquiries why your mail didn't get approved. You should NOT do that according to Group Rules.

Note: Do NOT reply to this mail. Please resend the your mail to group id (chetana-jobs@yahoogroups.com) after including all the required details.


OTHER THINGS YOU MUST KEEP IN MIND


Remember that if some group member (including myself) is sending a requirement, he is NOT a HR. He is trying to help you. If you fill his mail box with your resumes, he won't be sending any requirements next time to the group. Finally, it is going to affect you only.

Don't send resumes to individual mail IDs, unless he is a HR.


If an employee is forwarding your resume, you should be grateful to him for doing it, despite of his busy project schedule. Some employees may not be able to forward your resumes. Don't blame them for that. They will be having their own problems in the company.

Also just think of this : If a requirement is mentioned and an employee's mail ID is given, if all of you (50000 members) send resumes to him, how much time it takes for him to read and reply to you?

Assume 3 minutes for reading and replying each mail ? How much time it takes for him to reply to everyone of you? When should he complete his project work? Remember that you are not the only one sending resume to him.

So, be very very careful in sending a resume to an employee. And don't blame him for deleting your resume or for not replying to your mail. If he is replying you even a single line or sending requirements to the group, he/she must be very very good and show gratitude to such people.


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I observed lot of people sending resumes to all available mail IDs.

First learn to read the requirement mail completely and send resume ONLY TO the mail ID mentioned. Also send resumes ONLY IF you EXACTLY meet the given criteria.

There is no use in sending resumes to every mail ID you come across. Don't send resume to the one who sent you the requirement. Send it to the mail ID mentioned in the mail to which resumes need to be sent.


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When you are sending resume to an employee in company, don't bother him with your resumes. First try to enquire whether there is really any requirement.

And then forward your resume, requesting him to forward to his HR. Remember that they are helping you by taking their office time. It's NOT their duty to forward your resume. So, you should be grateful to them.

Leave the habit of keeping employee mail IDs in CC of mail, when you are sending resume to any company. If you keep any employee's mail ID in CC of your mail, it causes a lot of inconvenience to them. They will anyway DELETE it.


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Before sending any Job Info, Please verify by yourself whether the info is really authentic. Please note that you will be troubling lot of people by sending unauthentic info.

If some mail ID of an employee is mentioned in requirement, first mail him asking whether there is really such requirement in their company and whether he really wants to receive the resumes. Then only, send that requirement to the entire group.

This is very very important, as you should not trouble any emloyee of the company for your Job. You will understand their problems once you get a Job.


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NO AUTHENTICITY WILL BE GIVEN FOR ANY INFORMATION APPEARING IN THIS GROUP. JUST BECAUSE I APPROVE A MAIL, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S AUTHENTIC. YOU HAVE TO VERIFY THE AUTHENTICITY OF EACH MAIL BY YOURSELF BEFORE SENDING THE MESSAGE. YOU WILL HAVE TO FACE ANY CONSEQUENCES FOR SENDING UNAUTHENTIC INFORMATION.

If you want, you can have a try at the opportunities sent to Group. Otherwise, just leave it. As far as possible, I allow only authentic info. But there can always be some unauthentic information, as most of the information is obtained through forwards.

 

 

Thanks a lot for reading the group rules patiently...I wish you all the best for getting a good Job...

CHETANA -- THE CONSCIOUSNESS ( www.ChetanaS.com )

Owner, CHETANA-JOBS YahooGroup. ( ChetanaS.moderator @ yahoo.com )

A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is braver five minutes longer. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson